Minutes, IBIS Quality Committee 26 January 2010 11-12 AM EST (8-9 AM PST) ROLL CALL Adam Tambone * Anders Ekholm, Ericsson Barry Katz, SiSoft Benny Lazer Benjamin P Silva Bob Cox, Micron * Bob Ross, Teraspeed Consulting Group Brian Arsenault David Banas, Xilinx * Eckhard Lenski, Nokia Siemens Networks Eric Brock Guan Tao, Huawei Technologies Gregory R Edlund Hazem Hegazy Huang Chunxing, Huawei Technologies John Figueroa John Angulo, Mentor Graphics Katja Koller, Nokia Siemens Networks Kevin Fisher Kim Helliwell, LSI Logic * Lance Wang, IOMethodology Lijun, Huawei Lynne Green, Green Streak Programs * Mike LaBonte, Cisco Systems Mike Mayer, SiSoft * Moshiul Haque, Micron Technology Muniswarareddy Vorugu, ARM Ltd Pavani Jella, TI Peter LaFlamme Randy Wolff, Micron Technology Radovan Vuletic, Qimonda Robert Haller, Enterasys Roy Leventhal, Leventhal Design & Communications Sherif Hammad, Mentor Graphics Tim Coyle, Signal Consulting Group Todd Westerhoff, SiSoft Tom Dagostino, Teraspeed Consulting Group Kazuyoshi Shoji, Hitachi Sadahiro Nonoyama Everyone in attendance marked by * NOTE: "AR" = Action Required. -----------------------MINUTES --------------------------- Mike LaBonte conducted the meeting. Call for opens and patent disclosures: - No one declared a patent. - Bob: DesignCon - Mike: Nikonchuk request AR Review: - Moshiul created new sample checklist for iqsample.ibs - Moshiul sent a checklist wit typos fixed - Still need to update for iqsample.ibs - Mike will post - Mike add MS 2003 format files to IQ checklist upload - TBD New items: Summit: - Moshiul: Randy will give an IQ checklist presentation - Moshiul co-author Nikonchuk request: - Freescale, may be in Russia - Better to update the cookbook than IQ - Bob: Some companies have tools like s2ibis3 - Mike: We could address either how to make models or how to measure them - Moshiul: It would be more relevant to tackle correlation - Bob: The AH is a classic document and it would be better not to change it - MM put a lot of work into it - Bob: The cookbook recommends one way to do ODT - Mike: - Eckhard: Someone from Intel started the discussion about correlation - Anders: Measurement and correlation are different topics - Mike: They are somewhat related - Discussion of correlation has to talk about fixtures - Anders: Huawei measures real boards - How to correlate that has to be addressed - Bob: FSV is more relevant - Anders: features must be defined - We have to know what is enough to get and M or S in IQ - Mike: We left it that way in IQ Mike: It will be hard to start a correlation handbook in committee - Getting started is usually easier for one person - For example, Bob Haller started IQ - The existing work comes from specific vendors - Bob: We have to avoid undercutting anyone's business model - Mike: We could start an outline in the next meeting AR: Mike start correlation handbook outline Next meeting will be Feb 9 Meeting ended at 12:55 PM Eastern Time.